Comments on: Fon Announces New Beta Tester’s Program http://elfonblog.fondoo.net/?p=122 v2.0 Provided by www.fondoo.net - Fon-friendly DSL Provider! Fri, 10 Sep 2010 06:05:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: AC http://elfonblog.fondoo.net/?p=122#comment-79563 AC Sat, 25 Apr 2009 04:58:09 +0000 http://elfonblog.fondoo.net/?p=122#comment-79563 "UPDATE: 10/23 Fon will now accept orders for the remaining La Fonera 2s from any country except Canada." What's up with Canada?! I'm all ready to order a FON 2.0 router but I can't buy it here yet.. Any particular reason for that? “UPDATE: 10/23 Fon will now accept orders for the remaining La Fonera 2s from any country except Canada.”

What’s up with Canada?!

I’m all ready to order a FON 2.0 router but I can’t buy it here yet.. Any particular reason for that?

]]> By: austintx http://elfonblog.fondoo.net/?p=122#comment-68276 austintx Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:00:05 +0000 http://elfonblog.fondoo.net/?p=122#comment-68276 I hear you loud and clear, PJ. Fon has not been willing or able to live up to it's claims since the beginning. There was never a feature or news announcement that did not require an asterisk (*) at the end, leading to a long list of conditions and very suprising definitions of terms. Folks like you and me have been trying to fill the void with independant Fon-related activity. We have bonded together as a group who call rightly themselves "Foneros". We've tested, reverse-engineered, enhanced and rebuilt the Fon system. We've brought our own ideas about community wifi networking, and debated the merits of a variety of courses. Though we carry the Fon banner more and more grudgingly each week, we have succeeded in building something worth keeping. I hope that you, and others who share our interests, hang in there. I think we're an important part of a larger community wireless networking scene. Let's stop worrying about Martin's foibles and Fon's failures. We've felt from the very beginning that Fon was for US, not the other way around. Fon has dissapointed us, and even opposed us, but our community has survived. Let's keep the Fonero Community idling so that we are ready when the opportunity to make a transition elsewhere becomes possible. I hear you loud and clear, PJ. Fon has not been willing or able to live up to it’s claims since the beginning. There was never a feature or news announcement that did not require an asterisk (*) at the end, leading to a long list of conditions and very suprising definitions of terms.

Folks like you and me have been trying to fill the void with independant Fon-related activity. We have bonded together as a group who call rightly themselves “Foneros”. We’ve tested, reverse-engineered, enhanced and rebuilt the Fon system. We’ve brought our own ideas about community wifi networking, and debated the merits of a variety of courses.

Though we carry the Fon banner more and more grudgingly each week, we have succeeded in building something worth keeping. I hope that you, and others who share our interests, hang in there. I think we’re an important part of a larger community wireless networking scene. Let’s stop worrying about Martin’s foibles and Fon’s failures.

We’ve felt from the very beginning that Fon was for US, not the other way around. Fon has dissapointed us, and even opposed us, but our community has survived. Let’s keep the Fonero Community idling so that we are ready when the opportunity to make a transition elsewhere becomes possible.

]]> By: PJMDS http://elfonblog.fondoo.net/?p=122#comment-68269 PJMDS Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:04:34 +0000 http://elfonblog.fondoo.net/?p=122#comment-68269 No serious developer would even think about gaining some money with FON, most of the community developers working with the FON routers are students doing it for fun and to apply what they are learning, I doubt that someone with a job and family would even waste money on a router which doesn't have all the software for the hardware. This week is my last week reading FON related stuff, might also stop being fonero soon, I got tired of to much crap from FON side, in Portugal FON sold us to a company called TvCabo, that company is now using our service like one extra for their services, their clients can use our hotspots for free for 6 months, they don't even need to share like other foneros. Also the FON system is exploitable in many ways, for example the 15 minutes of free wifi can be easily exploitable, FON knows that for many months. Also the all "FON is secure" crap is a bunch of lies, the public SSID isn't encrypted, anyone can snif the trafic and see almost all in plain text, even a noob can do it in Windows with the proper software and wireless drivers. Another thing that abset me was the FON CEO Martin ignoring most of the fonero questions on his blog, he accepted comments but couldn't keep up with the questions and facts, he revealed how weak is his knowledge about FON or just that he is lying about FON "success". Best regards to all foneros, don't join the dark side of the force ;) No serious developer would even think about gaining some money with FON, most of the community developers working with the FON routers are students doing it for fun and to apply what they are learning, I doubt that someone with a job and family would even waste money on a router which doesn’t have all the software for the hardware.

This week is my last week reading FON related stuff, might also stop being fonero soon, I got tired of to much crap from FON side, in Portugal FON sold us to a company called TvCabo, that company is now using our service like one extra for their services, their clients can use our hotspots for free for 6 months, they don’t even need to share like other foneros.

Also the FON system is exploitable in many ways, for example the 15 minutes of free wifi can be easily exploitable, FON knows that for many months. Also the all “FON is secure” crap is a bunch of lies, the public SSID isn’t encrypted, anyone can snif the trafic and see almost all in plain text, even a noob can do it in Windows with the proper software and wireless drivers.

Another thing that abset me was the FON CEO Martin ignoring most of the fonero questions on his blog, he accepted comments but couldn’t keep up with the questions and facts, he revealed how weak is his knowledge about FON or just that he is lying about FON “success”.

Best regards to all foneros, don’t join the dark side of the force ;)

]]> By: Roetzen http://elfonblog.fondoo.net/?p=122#comment-68229 Roetzen Tue, 14 Oct 2008 23:51:43 +0000 http://elfonblog.fondoo.net/?p=122#comment-68229 "but if you’re one of the dozen or so busy Foneros who create an application which Fon actually likes, you could be reimbursed the cost of your router! Have Fon with that." When I worked as a professional developer my boss charged his customers €75/hour for my services. That was 10 years ago. How much time do you think a professional developer today will be willing to spend on it, considering that the best he can hope for is to get back his €40 investment on the Fonera2? “but if you’re one of the dozen or so busy Foneros who create an application which Fon actually likes, you could be reimbursed the cost of your router! Have Fon with that.”

When I worked as a professional developer my boss charged his customers €75/hour for my services. That was 10 years ago. How much time do you think a professional developer today will be willing to spend on it, considering that the best he can hope for is to get back his €40 investment on the Fonera2?

]]> By: PJMDS http://elfonblog.fondoo.net/?p=122#comment-67932 PJMDS Sun, 12 Oct 2008 01:28:31 +0000 http://elfonblog.fondoo.net/?p=122#comment-67932 http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/11/la-fonera-2-0-emerges-for-developers-encourages-usb-related-she/# :) http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/11/la-fonera-2-0-emerges-for-developers-encourages-usb-related-she/#

:)

]]> By: austintx http://elfonblog.fondoo.net/?p=122#comment-67905 austintx Sat, 11 Oct 2008 16:30:13 +0000 http://elfonblog.fondoo.net/?p=122#comment-67905 I think this thing is called "jumping just before the elevator hits the bottom of the shaft". Fon is firing everyone they can manage without, and selling anything they have on the shelves. It raises a little bit of money, perhaps. I think this thing is called “jumping just before the elevator hits the bottom of the shaft”. Fon is firing everyone they can manage without, and selling anything they have on the shelves. It raises a little bit of money, perhaps.

]]> By: PJMDS http://elfonblog.fondoo.net/?p=122#comment-67885 PJMDS Sat, 11 Oct 2008 10:05:19 +0000 http://elfonblog.fondoo.net/?p=122#comment-67885 That's a new concept invented by FON, you have to pay them to improve their device, shouldn't be the opposite ?! Just like in the past most of the beta testers don't get the device in order to beta test it, it's sold first and tested later, are we supposed to buy the device and waste our time to help FON ? That’s a new concept invented by FON, you have to pay them to improve their device, shouldn’t be the opposite ?!

Just like in the past most of the beta testers don’t get the device in order to beta test it, it’s sold first and tested later, are we supposed to buy the device and waste our time to help FON ?

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